Apr 13, 2012; Chicago, IL, USA; Detroit Tigers left fielder Delmon Young (21) is unable to catch a ball hit for a triple by Chicago White Sox right fielder Alejandro De Aza (not pictured) during the eighth inning at US Cellular Field. The White Sox won 5-2. Mandatory Credit: Jerry Lai-US PRESSWIRE

Should The Tigers Part Ways With Delmon Young?


Delmon Young is a hot topic right now…and for all the wrong reasons. While I would love to shy away from the topic until we find out more information, it’s a subject I feel like we have to approach here at MCB. About 24 hours ago, it has been reported that Young got into some sort of drunken incident in New York, apparently involving some less than flattering words with a Jewish individual. What we do know is that Young was arrested, and that whatever occurred was serious enough that nobody is sure if we are going to see Young back on the field soon.

The Tigers have done the dance I expected at this point, making a comment that they weren’t going to comment, but at some point they are going to have to make a decision depending on the outcome of Young’s case. There is nothing wrong with the Tigers waiting on information. But the reality is they aren’t going to want to stay inactive for long on the subject and look like they aren’t being tough on a player that allegedly wasn’t a good face for the organization.

This isn’t the first incident during Delmon’s career where there has been some issue with anger. I’m sure many are familiar with him throwing his bat and hitting the umpire with it in a minor league game. He was suspended 50 games for that action. Delmon was young (no pun intended), however, and if nothing else, we tend to be a society that eventually forgives. While that transgression can be chalked up to being youthful, this latest one in New York cannot be chalked up to youth. It can be chalked up to being boozed, but that excuse isn’t likely to fly with the general public, putting the Tigers organization in a little bit of a bind.

There is a real possibility that this situation could be the end of Delmon Young’s tenure in Detroit. The Tigers might find it most palatable to wash their hands of the situation by letting go of Young, honestly made easier by the fact that Delmon Young isn’t all that good of a player. We’ve discussed his value quite a bit here on MCB, and when he wears a glove on his hand, it’s possible the Tigers would be better off with Andy Dirks and Don Kelly manning LF on a regular basis. That decision on whether or not the Tigers will get rid of Young likely isn’t going to be made very quickly. I believe the Tigers will wait for all the information to come through. I believe they will wait to see what happens legally, and they may just let MLB do the punishing and leave it at that.

Let’s be real. If this were Prince Fielder, I wouldn’t even be writing this article. The Tigers have too much invested in Prince, and he is a star player. Star players get different treatment. See Josh Hamilton and Miguel Cabrera. The Tigers would let MLB do what they will, and try to move on quickly. Delmon is only signed for this year, and is struggling. The Tigers will have to decide if Young is worth the potential public relations hit versus the production they get from him on the field.

As premature as this may be, I throw it to you out there. Are we willing to forgive Young for a drunken incident or not? Yes or no question. Which way are you leaning?

Should The Tigers Release Delmon Young

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  • spartynation1

    I vote no, only because I can’t say with any degree of certainty that he is guilty of what he is accused, aside from being drunk. However, the Tigers organization may be privy to much more than what is public and if they happen to know that Delmon acted as described then I would cut him in a heartbeat. 

    • MCBjohnverburg

       @spartynation1 I tend to want to wait as well. But realistically, there is some p.r. damage done to the organization already. Either way, I wanted to put the poll out there to get peoples feelings on it.

    • ChrisHannum

       @spartynation1 I wonder how long the process is going to drag out…  Our legal system doesn’t exactly do things at a brisk pace.

      • spartynation1

         @ChrisHannum I have seen some early estimates that push resolution beyond this season. The wheels do grind in ponderously slow fashion, especially when one can afford talented counsel. I agree with your above comment that Delmon’s baseball aptitude would be reason enough to give him the boot.

      • ScotWoods

         @ChrisHannum  @spartynation1 As I understand it, the charge is technically a misdemeanor. Have any of you got an authoritative answer on that one? If it is a misdemeanor charge, does that affect your thoughts on the issue. As you may have gathered, based on the reporting I’ve seen, I view this as a player who went out and got really drunk and really stupid, and very little real harm was done.

        • ChrisHannum

           @ScotWoods What I heard was that it was Aggravated Harrassment, which is a misdemeanor.  I do not know how much or how little a ‘hate crime’ tag would up the ante – but that misdemeanor alone could potentially carry jail time.  I really doubt it would come to that, but even if it did it looks like the sentence wouldn’t be handed down until after his time as a Tiger was over.

        • spartynation1

           @ScotWoods  I have seen the same potential penalty stated in numerous articles to be one year in jail, which I doubt he will serve barring new developments, As far as his continued employment by the Tigers, I am stuck where I was in the beginning I suppose. If the information at hand leaves the management to believe he should stay then so be it. 

  • MarkSands

    I vote yes.  But only because he is bad at baseball and we’d be better off with Raburn or Dirks in the OF and Danny Worth at 2b.

  • Sam Genson

    I say no.  Regardless of the legalese..this will give Smokey a reason to play Don Kelly more…and that is a BAD thing.  That is a hate crime against baseball fans

    • funkytime

       @Sam Genson Especially when he’s batting 5th.  I can live with Kelly when he’s batting 9th, but Leyland’s crazy lineup decisions really irk me.

  • garretkc

    Either way–and whether you like Young or not–this is highly unfortunate. The Tigers, who may have been hoping to dangle him at the trade deadline, will not have that option anymore. No National League team would have wanted him to begin with, no team that’s out of contention come July will be interested, and now, the few remaining teams will look to this incident and that contract and be completely disillusioned. That’s even assuming he can play at all before the trade deadline or even the whole rest of the year. I hope Detroit can get some of that money back.

  • garretkc

    On another note–our last two articles have used the two best Delmon Young pictures in the US=Presswire database. Awesome.

  • DetroitDale

    Kick him to the curb now.  He’s a borderline hitter who hit way over his average for a short time because he was hitting ahead of Cabrera and Martinez.   He’s a trainwreck defensively and he swings at everything closer to the plate than a pickoff move.  Even if he were a choirboy he wouldn’t be worth keeping around.  Now that he’s proven to be every bit the worthless piece of excrement his older brother Dmitri was.  He should not spend another single day shaming the Olde English D by wearing it.   Any subpar production he may have provided is outweighed by the example you set for other kids in the organization. (you can live like a punk or a major league ballpayer not both).  I only wish in addition to releasing his worthless posterior we could put him in the stocks and allow citizens to pelt him with rotten fruit as they pass by like the good old days.  Too bad the kept Team mascot inge so long they lost Clete Thomas, be nice to have him to replace Delmon right now. 

    • ChrisHannum

       @DetroitDale As far as how worthless of a piece of excrement he might be:  Does anybody actually know what it is that he said while stumbling drunk?

      • DetroitDale

         @ChrisHannum
         I don’t really care what he said, it’s the stumbling drunk and hate fueled assault that got him locked up and missing games that makes me wnat him gone.  It’s his brother Dmitri all over again.  Dmitri showed us what happens when you give lousy indiviuals second chances, no reason to give Delmon one. 

        • ChrisHannum

           @DetroitDale Miguel Cabrera has also shown us what happens when you give a guy a second (or third) chance…  But, then, Miguel Cabrera plays baseball well – Delmon Young does not.  On the incident alone, maybe you could justify giving Young a shot to redeem himself in the public eye, maybe, but it would remain questionable whether he was ‘worth it’.  

        • ScotWoods

           @DetroitDale  @ChrisHannum You mention a “hate-fueled assault,” except that as the facts come out, it seems that the epithet was directed at a Jewish panhandler, and the “assault” targeted a non-Jewish guy from Chicago who was handing the guy money outside the hotel.  BTW, and I haven’t seen any of these details reported here at motor city bengals — the “victim” of Young’s attack later texted the NY Daily News, “I’m fine. Spent the day in Central Park and then went to the Yankees game.”  None of it makes a lot of sense, but it sure doesn’t fit the bill of a “hate crime” as envisioned by the people who campaigned for such legislation in the first place. It’s a dumb, stumbling, angry drunk who has some issues to address. Not his finest hour. But let’s keep this in perspective: Young’s hardly the first 20-something baseball player to over-imbibe and act stupid.

        • ChrisHannum

           @ScotWoods I have seen very little relevant detail anywhere on what exactly happened there on which to make a judgment on Young’s character or criminality.  If you don’t know facts, you can imagine it being anywhere from mildly disgraceful to downright despicable.  Most seem to have gravitated toward the latter.  If he stumbled over to the panhandler and said something along the lines of “ain’t all you Jews supposed to be rich?”, then shoved somebody who said to leave him alone – frankly that doesn’t sound nearly as bad as drunken Cabrera threatening to kill people in a restaurant. Then, maybe it didn’t go anything like that.  Don’t know.
           
          But… as for whether or not a player should be released, the details of the situation and whether or what crime was committed don’t matter all that much.  [Unless you're talking about somebody as apparently combustible as Ugueth Urbina.]  It will always come down to weighing the guys on-field importance to the team against the off-field PR baggage that keeping him would entail.  Young’s on-field contribution is small and the PR impact is potentially large – so I think the question is fair.

        • ScotWoods

           @ChrisHannum Say, you make a good point about the PR angle and if that’s the core argument for cutting the guy, it’s a shame that didn’t make it into the story.

  • ChrisHannum

    I was opposed to the trade and opposed to offering him a contract.  I continue to be opposed to seeing Delmon Young play defense or bat against right-handed pitching, as well as opposed to the size of his paycheck.  As for the current debacle, everything ought to hinge on the legal details and not his baseball aptitude.  But… I have a hard time imagining that this will seriously hurt the Tigers’ on the field.

  • ScotWoods

    The only thing worse than jumping to premature conclusions based on half-assed information is having a media site deliberately invite people to jump to premature conclusions based on half-assed information.

    • Sam Genson

       @ScotWoods No longer is anyone innocent until guilty.  People are not tried in the court of public opinion within hours (or minutes) of the event taking place.  Its just the way society works now.

    • MCBjohnverburg

       @ScotWoods You know how he could prevent this? Not got arrested.

      • Sam Genson

         @MCBjohnverburg  @ScotWoods I wonder, do the Tigers have a philosophy (for lack of a better word) that when in a visiting city teammates should go out together to watch each other’s backs?  It would seem like a smart thing to do, so that everyone is accountable and cannot be left to their own devices.

      • ScotWoods

         @MCBjohnverburg Agreed. I’m not defending Young’s actions, but that wasn’t the question. The author, writing about 24 hours after the incident took place, jumps hysterically to the question, should Delmon be released? Of course not: He’s owed $6 million whether he plays or not (minus 7 days’ pay, it now appears), and he’s a significantly better hitter than they have waiting in Toledo. If teams released every player who got arrested…

        • MCBjohnverburg

           @ScotWoods It’s a fair question, one that other people like Lynn Henning have addressed as well. Regardless of whether you or I like it or not, the perception out there about Young isn’t a positive one, and the situation has caused a black eye on the organization, because every Detroit Tiger is a representative of the Tigers. The reason I raised the question is because Delmon Young isn’t a very good ball player, and the Tigers have to weigh whether or not his impact to the team is worth the P.R. hit, and believe me they are taking a P.R. hit. Delmon Young created this situation himself. Not me. There was nothing hysterical about this post.

        • ScotWoods

           @MCBjohnverburg So we disagree. My point in my original comment was, the question was being posed before the facts of the case were even really known. It was premature to start talking about cutting the guy. When you noted, “As premature as this may be…” you were dead on. Having taken both sides of the issue, I agree with the first “you” — premature.

        • MCBjohnverburg

           @ScotWoods The sentence in the paragraph directly prior to that I believe I was dead on as well. The Tigers had to decide if keeping him is worth the public relations hit. Whether or not it is right to judge before the facts isn’t the argument. Ideally you wait, as everyone is supposed to be innocent before proven guilty. As a philosophical stance, that’s great, but that’s not reality, and we both know that. Perception matters in very public businesses. No matter what happens, D.Y. is going to be associated with this, and therefore the Tigers will be. I felt like it was a legitimate question, and one that people were asking around the water cooler, so to speak ,when they heard of the situation.
           
          So yeah, we disagree, and that’s fine. I’ve moved on. They handed out his punishment. It is what it is at this point.