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		<title>Former Tigers Still Chasing the Dream</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Parent</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I was pouring over MLB Trade Rumors this morning, I found a link to a blog called Monozygotic, which is written by twin brothers, obviously. They put together a comprehensive list of all non-roster invitees for the 2010 Spring Training camps of each team. It is impressive work.
Non-roster invitees are always an interesting group. There are young players that are getting their first looks from the major league staff, journeymen still trying to establish themselves as big league talents, and always a few veterans trying to catch on with yet another team, looking for one last season in the sun.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was pouring over MLB Trade Rumors this morning, I found a link to a blog called <em>Monozygotic</em>, which is written by twin brothers, obviously. They put together a <a href="http://monozygotic.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/2010-consolidated-list-of-non-roster-invitees/">comprehensive list</a> of all non-roster invitees for the 2010 Spring Training camps of each team. It is impressive work.</p>
<p>Non-roster invitees are always an interesting group. There are young players that are getting their first looks from the major league staff, journeymen still trying to establish themselves as big league talents, and always a few veterans trying to catch on with yet another team, looking for one last season in the sun.</p>
<p>Upon scouring <em>Monozygotic</em>&#8217;s  post, I found the list was littered with former Tigers. I always find it fun to catch up on the guys that used to wear the Old English D, after all once a Tiger, always a Tiger.</p>
<p>In addition to those listed after the jump, I found a few former Tiger farm hands, including Dewayne Wise and Scott Moore. But I decided to keep this list to big league Tigers only.</p>
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<p><strong>Jason Grilli</strong>- RP, Cleveland- 8-8 record in four seasons (2005-08) as a reliever with the Tigers before being traded to Colorado in 2008. Grilli has been released twice since then.</p>
<p><strong>Vance Wilson</strong>- C, KC- Wilson caught two years (2005-06) for the Tigers but hasn&#8217;t played in a big league game since. He is still recovering from two Tommy John surgeries on his right arm. He played in 59 games at AA last season for the Royals.</p>
<p><strong>Mike Maroth</strong>- P, Min- Maroth lost 21 games for the Tigers in 2003, but was one of the pleasant surprises of the 2006 staff before injuries cut short his season. He was traded to St. Louis in 2007, and that was the last he&#8217;s seen a big league mound. He has been released twice since then. Over his six years in Detroit (2002-2007), he had a record of 50-62.</p>
<p><strong>Jacque Jones</strong>- OF, Min- Jones was acquired by the Tigers in advance of the 2008 season, but was released after just 24 games that year. During his time in Detroit, Jones hit all of one home run and had a line of .165/.244/.253/.498. He caught on with Florida, but was actually significantly worse with them. He has been released twice since leaving Detroit.</p>
<p><strong>Mike Rivera</strong>- C, NYY- Rivera caught 43 games over two years in Detroit (2001-02), and has been a four-A catcher ever since. He saw time with San Diego and was even re-signed by the Tigers in 2005 before being released at the end of Spring Training in 2005. He&#8217;s played the past several years with Milwaukee.</p>
<p><strong>Marcus Thames</strong>- OF, NYY- Thames hit 99 of his 101 career homers as a Tiger from 2004-09. He was released in October of 2009 and recently signed with the Yankees, which is where his career began.</p>
<p><strong>Clay Rapada</strong>- RP, Tex- Another member of the &#8216;09 Tigers, Rapada was traded to the Rangers after the season. In parts of the past three years in Detroit, Rapada was 3-0 and held left handed batters to a .235 average.</p>
<p><strong>Brent Clevlen</strong>- OF, Atl- A former second round pick of the Tigers, Clevlen was picked up by the Braves as a minor league free agent this winter. He has just 80 big league at bats, but has shown good power and a great arm. He&#8217;s still just 26 years old.</p>
<p><strong>Josh Anderson</strong>- OF, Cin- Anderson played just half of the &#8216;09 season in Detroit before being shipped to Kansas City. Even the Royals didn&#8217;t think he could play, despite their affection for low-OBP outfielders. He has played for four clubs in the last three years.</p>
<p><strong>Shane Loux</strong>- P, Hou- If you don&#8217;t recall Loux being a Tiger, you&#8217;ve probably just blocked out the memories. Loux made seven starts during the 2002 and 2003 seasons in Detroit, carrying a 7.71 ERA. He disappeared from the big leagues until 2008 when he came up with the Angels. He returned to a starting role with LA of A last season, as well.</p>
<p><strong>Chris Shelton</strong>- 1B/3B, Hou- No one needs a reminder of the scorching month of April Shelton put up in 2006, but since then he has bounced around quite a bit. He has made appearances with Texas and Seattle over the past two years and he&#8217;s trying to re-invent himself as a third baseman these days.</p>
<p><strong>Jeff Weaver</strong>- R, LAD- The former Tiger ace was traded away in the Jeremy Bonderman deal of 2002. Since then he has been a part of six different organizations, including the Dodgers twice. Somewhere between Detroit and New York, Weaver seems to have lost his effectiveness, couldn&#8217;t have happened to a nicer guy.</p>
<p><strong>Matt Treanor</strong>- C, Mil- Treanor will always hold the Tigers team record for lowest career batting average after going hitless in his 13 at bats last season before injuries ended his year. On the plus side, Treanor&#8217;s loss was the Tigers gain as they got a chance to look at Alex Avila last year. Misty May will be missed, her husband, not so much.</p>
<p><strong>Mike Hessman</strong>- 1B/3B, NYM- Hessman has over 300 career minor league home runs, and all of 13 in the big leagues, nine of those coming with the Tigers. He doesn&#8217;t make a lot of contact, but when he does, he has tremendous power. At 31, Hessman is probably the closest we will ever see to a real-life Crash Davis, but the Mets don&#8217;t have a clear-cut choice at first base this year, so he may get a look.</p>
<p><strong>Dane Sardinha</strong>- C, Phi- Sardinha may be the worst hitter in organized baseball. In two years with the Tigers, the defensive specialist was 10 for 75 for a -14 OPS+ and a paltry .133 average. Defensively, he wasn&#8217;t all that special, either, throwing out just 18% of base stealer. But hey, he calls a good game from what I hear.</p>
<p><strong>Wilfredo Ledezma</strong>- P, Pit- Ledezma was another member of the 2003 Tigers team, and under the circumstances, he wasn&#8217;t all that bad. In parts of five years in Detroit, Ledezma had a 15-18 record with an ERA of 5.15. Since being traded to Atlanta in 2007, Ledezma has been with six different organizations.</p>
<p><strong>Virgil Vasquez</strong>- P, Pit- Vasquez made three starts for the 2007 Tigers, posting an ERA over eight. Since then he has been waived three times. Vasquez appeared in 14 games (7 starts) for last years Pirates, going 0-2.</p>
<p><strong>Denny Bautista</strong>- RP, SF- Bautista made 16 appearances for the 2008 Tigers. He had no record and a solid 3.32 ERA before being traded to Pittsburgh. The hard-throwing right hander has always struggled with command, but he&#8217;s till just 29 and has a lot of life on his fastball. Maybe someday he&#8217;ll put it all together.</p>
<p><strong>Matt Stairs</strong>- OF/1B, SD- Stairs began his major league career back in 1992, and he&#8217;s still playing at age 42. The Tigers are one of 11 different teams he&#8217;s played with over his 17 years. He played in 14 games after being acquired as a late season waiver claim in 2006, hitting two home runs for Detroit.</p>
<p>Also of note, Stairs is the only player on this list to be tortured by <em>Fire Joe Morgan</em>. <a href="http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/10/lets-gallimaufry-this-shizz.html">He was FJM&#8217;d</a> following his NLCS heroics for the Phillies in 2008. The video is about halfway down the post, make sure you&#8217;re not drinking anything while enjoying the wonder that was FJM, else it will burn coming out of your nose.</p>
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		<title>Afternoon Delight: Wilson Reaction, Trade Thames? and Spring Training Schedule</title>
		<link>http://motorcitybengals.com/2008/12/04/afternoon-delight-wilson-reaction-trade-thames-and-spring-training-schedule/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dexter</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Tiger Notes]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#8217;s just say that I am happy that the Tigers are dening the reports that they have acquired Jack Wilson. The Pirate shortstop was according to a report shipped out of the Steel City, right into the motor city. The same writer, Dan Graziano stated that the Tigers have denied the reports. He still believes that a deal could be put in place by the end of the weekend.
I just pray that it wont.
The same day that Edgar Renteria finally left us for good, the rumors that have haunted me the last few weeks are coming to life. It&#8217;s not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just say that I am happy that the Tigers are dening the reports that they have acquired <strong>Jack Wilson</strong>. The Pirate shortstop was according to a report <a href="http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2008/12/detroit_tigers_acquire_ss_jack.html">shipped out of the Steel City</a>, right into the motor city. The same writer, <strong>Dan Graziano </strong>stated that the Tigers have denied the reports. He still believes that a deal could be put in place by the end of the weekend.</p>
<p>I just pray that it wont.</p>
<p>The same day that E<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081204&amp;content_id=3701954&amp;vkey=hotstove2008&amp;fext=.jsp">dgar Renteria finally left us for good</a>, the rumors that have haunted me the last few weeks are coming to life. It&#8217;s not that I am afraid that Wilson wont be a good fit, I am just perturbed by the fact that management feels <strong>Jack Wilson</strong> is that big of an upgrade over <strong>Ramon Santiago</strong>.</p>
<p>If this is truly the route that the front office is going, why not give Ramon a shot? The money spent could be used else where to bolster the pen, rotation, bench&#8230;. Anything. I would be happy if that money went toward buying the fireworks on weekends.</p>
<p>Another issue that scares me is that after searching far and wide (aka <strong>Alex Cora</strong>), The Tigers put together a <a href="http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/default.aspx">fresh offer</a>. Oh god, what does that mean? Are they really going to offer a prospect for Wilson? Even worse an infield prospect, considering its one of the weakest parts of the system. Giving up a <a href="http://www.mudhens.com/info/player.asp?id=202">Michael Hollimon</a>, <strong>Wilkin Ramirez</strong> or <strong>Brent Clevlen</strong> or anyone near that worth would be foolish in my mind.</p>
<p>Another deal I could see was to make room on the forty man. What if they dealt this <strong>Casper Wells</strong> character with a <strong>Ryan Raburn</strong>?  I might be ok with that. Even though I still feel Ryan Raburn could contribute just as much as a Jack Wilson. Ok, enough of that rant, Let&#8217;s take look at some other news from across Tiger nation.</p>
<div id="attachment_104" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 263px"><a href="http://motorcitybengals.fansidedblogs.net/files/2008/12/marcusthames.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-104" src="http://motorcitybengals.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/marcusthames-253x300.jpg" alt="Will Marcus Thames be traded during the Winter Meetings?" width="253" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Will Marcus Thames be traded during the Winter Meetings?</p></div>
<p><strong>Tiger Notes</strong>:</p>
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<li>Bless You Boys <a href="http://www.blessyouboys.com/2008/12/4/679395/the-quest-for-relief-retur">talks about Joe Beimel today</a> and how it is hard to understand why the Tigers are going after the lefty, considering <strong>Bobby Seay</strong> and <strong>Clay Rapada</strong> were decent last season. He notes that the Tigers should aim their money more at a Juan Cruz, or another power righty. I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Firstly, <strong>Clay Rapada</strong> was one of the best at stranding inherited runners in 2008. Of the 25 runners that were on base when he entered the game, only two scored. That is an excellent turnaround that many forget to note. <strong>Bobby Seay</strong> had a .93 SV/HLD percentage.</li>
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<li>How does <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&amp;sid=a_WMK3clXmzM&amp;refer=home">Javier Vazquez being traded</a> out of the AL Central affect the Tigers? Not too much. Detroit has hit him pretty well. In 2007, he held the Tigers to a .210 BAA, but in &#8216;08 that bloated to .266. It seems that Chicago got a pretty good deal out of this. Brent Lillibridge could eventually move to third base in the future alonside <strong>Alexi Ramirez</strong> at short and <strong>Gordon Beckham</strong> at second.</li>
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<li>The Spot Starters thinks that <strong>Marcus Thames</strong> <a href="http://www.spotstarters.com/?p=1182">could be pretty good trade bait</a>. He suggests maybe a  Jeff Keppinger or Jack Wilson. It is not a bad move. It&#8217;s hard to think that I might have to let go of one of my favorite Tigers. He just blasts those baseballs. You have to do, what you have to do though</li>
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<li>The Tigers have announced their <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20081204/SPORTS02/81204068/1050/rss15">spring training schedule</a>. Check it out.</li>
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<li>Also check out this Dave Dombrowski Interview. Pretty good stuff. [via <a href="http://blessyouboys.com">Bless You Boys</a>]</li>
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